Binary option robot AGO: Hi point 9mm carbine stock options

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High Tower Armory is known for making bullpup stock kits for the 10-22. They make a P90 styled kit to drop in a 10-22 barrels action and making it into a bullpup.

Well now they are working on a bullpup kit for the HiPoint Carbine. Third stock kit is called the MBS 95. Not exactly a name that rolls off the tongue and not exactly flashy but that does not detract from the appeal of a bullpup HiPoint Carbine.

As posted before by Nathan S., the bullpup kit is a simple drop in design. It will use any magazine for the HiPoint Carbine. They have designed the magwell to be wider to accept double stack magazines however at this time they have not found any magazines that work. So while you will be stuck using single stack extended magazines for now, they are looking into making a double stack magazine of their own design later down the road.

The stock is packed with a lot of features. It has CNC top and bottom picatinny rails. They added MLOK slots to the rear of the stock so you can use MLOK QD sling mounts while also including traditional slots in the back, middle and front of the stock to use a sling. The pistol grip has a knuckle protector that is removable and comes with plugs to cover up the gaps left by the knuckle guard.

They are projecting to have these available by late spring or early summer and will be available in black, OD Green, Desert Tan, and FDE. The price is expected for be around $200-$300. Also, this stock kit will work for any of the Hi Point carbines regardless of caliber.

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It costs more than the rifle did when I got mine (actually I won it so it was free, but at the time it was like $180), heck it is almost as expensive as you can snag one for now.

You basically double the price of the gun but it looks like something you wouldn’t be embarrassed to admit owning.

If they’d make this thing so that it used Glock magazines (or some other commonly available double stack) I’d actually buy a Hi Point and build one. As it is, its still a single stack carbine and there’s a ton of other carbines on the market that may cost a little more but are well worth the extra pennies.

The kind of person that buys a HiPoint carbine because that’s all they can afford isn’t going to buy this stock.

A little more? There are only two commercially available 9mm bullpups out there. The JARD which is 900 so… Double the cost and the tavor conversion kit which is… around 2000 which is 4-5 times the cost. So not a little bit more, a mountain more.

And hi point has adopted the redball magazines (they told people the new carbines would ship with the redball aftermarket magazines from the factory at shot show) so capacity on the carbines is actually 20rds.

There are also 9mm steyr carbines too.

And the kel Tec sub 2000.

And all of the ar options.

There’s those glock rifle things that look a bit funky.

Taurus might still have the ct9 out there.

Honestly I could probably keep going if I gave it a little more thought. Not sure where that person got the idea that there’s only 2 9mm carbines.

Bullpups. He said there are only two bullpups, not carbines.

Wow… I need to sleep more…

The hi point isn’t a bullpup either.

There is only 1 pistol caliber rifle that comes from the factory as a bullpup.

We’re talking about the Hi Point WITH the High Tower Armory bullpup stock … that’s kinda the point of this entire article and discussion.

And there are at least 3 9mm rifles that come from the factory as a bullpup.

the JARD J67, The IWI Tavor and the Steyr AUG.

Considering that you can’t get a high tower stock…

The fact stands, if you want a bullpup PCC, a hi point is still on the same level as a sub2k. Or a 9mm ar.

Didn’t know about the Redball mags … I wonder how well they work (they look awkward but if looks stupid but it works, its not stupid.

Videos look promising. Wish they made a 15-rounder…

If you’d watch the video, they explain why. The receiver isn’t compatible with existing double-stacks, like that Yugo AK sporter that only accepts singles. They’d have two options 1) give instructions on how to mill out the receiver (voids that lovely warranty), or 2) design a double-stack that necks down to a single-stack into the receiver. I’m betting on option 2.

Yeah, like an HK P7 M10 or M13 magazine. I could swear there was an older subgun that also used a double-stack-necked-down-to-single magazine.

The trigger bar is what keeps the hipoint from taking double stack mags.

Oh, is it? Well, that’s just begging for an aftermarket solution…

I was wrong. You aint getting a double stack mag in there.

Yeah…I’m gonna say not, lol.

Well, they’ve at least not nullified their warranty for the Red Ball mags. I wish that company made a 15-rounder…

Someone used to provide a service where they would mill these out for Glock mags and rig the catch to work as well. They also did the Ruger PC guns.

Even at $400 (2 bills for the Hipoint, 2 for the stock) it’s still better value than the competition. Sub2Ks theoretically cost $300, but real market value is double MSRP when you can find it. Taurus has already discontinued their CT line, probably because it was the same rifle as a Hipoint at double the cost. From there, you only go up in price. A berretta CX4 will run you nearly $700 (bud’s pricing) and a MechTec conversion a bit more depending on how much you bought your base pistol for.

Oh, and *none* of these are bullpups.

I paid a $100 for my Hi point carbine.

I bought it used but still.

Now go throw that thang in a tree-hunred dolla peice o’ plastic holmes. Reall smooth…

estimated MSRP =/= street value.

Also the PS90 stock for the 10/22 is pretty much the same thing, except y waste time on rimfire anything.

So? Is it better to spend 300 on a 1000 dollar gun?

Imho yup. Much. Its like putting 24kt gold leaf trim in a yugo. But hey, to each their own… and I can still laugh at em’! Just like peeps can laugh at what I do. Its all okay.

It is cheapskates like you who put a crappy optic on a gun because the gun wasn’t expensive then they proceed to whine about the gun being bad.

I have no respect for your ilk.

?? I’m so confused! I wouldn’t even own a crappy optic. Your crazy.

So what again does it make better than a PS90…?

How about just making it in 9mm?

Because then it’s not a PS90.

Seriously, it would probably take a lot of work to make the 90 degree turning magazine work reliably in 9mm.

Plus, the rounds are fatter, so capacity would be lower.

They’re going to sell a ton of these things.

I know several guys who bought the Hi-Point back when for small money as a first gun, then they learned more about guns and made more money and the Hi-Point got put away for better toys.

Now they’ve seen this coming out and they’re looking at finally being able to do something with a gun they’ve been sitting on for years.

The LOP looks like it’s measured in miles.

You sure are right about that. It needs an adjustable stock, like that electronic trigger bullpup that uses 10/22 mags.

The lop concept is completely different on a bullpup. I always find myself comparing it to a pistol with a shoulder stock.

why for a highpoint, why not something with higher cap mags?

Like what lol, an MP5? No one would ever do that. Sig MPX or CZ Scorpion? What’s the point when they have a pistol version.

You can polish a turd but…

So whats up with all the Hi Point love lately TFB?? It’s starting to feel like Hi Point-ageddon here.

Don’t worry, we will all get back to fun topics like external ballistics in the flavor of all things 6.5mm, drop-in triggers, and the latest innovations rails and suppressors seemingly milled from laminated bank notes.

When other brands choke and stop, Hi-Points keep chugging along. It’s the Toyota Hilux of firearms.

The facts that they’re the most affordable, AND have the absolutely best guarantee out there, are very, very nice extras to go along with it’s reliability.

If thats really the case than why don’t any agencies, gov or in the private sector use them? I mean if there such a superior reliable firearm at such a cost savings. Look, I don’t and won’t deny that they are a great option for people who just don’t have the money for something better. Or people that just want something that will work when they might need a gun and not interested in spending the money. But to try and put a hi points reliability above the likes of Glock, H&K, Sig, FN, S&W…ect.. is just silly. My main thing is the target audience that is buying a hi point. For the price you’re going to spend on the stock and the Hi-Point, just buy something better to begin with. But I do kind of get it if I equate it to slapping a Ferrari body kit on a Fiero. In that aspect, sure. The car will start, the car will go, the car will stop. Should be dependable as any car. It’ll get you from point A to point B and look cool too. But let’s be honest, you’re not going to get the performance of a Ferrari because you made a Fiero look like one.

Besides, my 1st post was just a goof anyway and just my opinion.

Because most agencies aren’t that interested in pistol caliber carbines in general these days. They either want ARs, or if they want 9mm, it’s gonna be full auto.

Wrong car analogy. It’s not a Fiero - limited usefulness and american car reliability-, it’s a Toyota. When your Ferrari stops it’s own engine to protect it from the dirt road’s dust in the air, the Toyota will just ignore you while it rides towards the homestead with a lumber load on the truck bed.

You, you got me! I’m going out to grab me a hi point today! Heck, I’ll grab too! Toss out all my other crap! Hi point! Hi point! Wo ho! Lol.

You leave my car analogy alone. It mine. U can’t use it! it is my literreryerer jean-ee-yus!

Let this be a lesson to you. Now, farewell, my planet needs me.

You’re not gonna get the performance of a Ferrari even from a Ferrari, cause you’re still driving at 55 mph, and you’re still not Michael Schumacher. So why bother with the Ferrari?

Because. ‘MERICA! Thats why.

Government is almost as much about looks as it is competence. Government agents carrying a Highpoint around would make the less perceptive to assume the government is ugly and low powered like the ugly and low mag capacity Highpoint, fermenting resentment and starting a civil war that will tear the U. S apart, this war would no doubt become known as the Highpoint Civil War.

– but seriously main reason is weight, concealability, magazine capacity, slide requires too much strength to rack, all these are serious problems with the Highpoint for wide appointment by small women. (increasingly making up more of the civil and security apparatus of the state)

ALL. FOUR. CALIBERS.

My motherfin’ heroes.

You know who really screwed the pooch in pistol caliber carbines?

Chiappa (a. k.a. Citadel).

They make a decent-looking M1 carbine lookalike (I won’t go so far as to call it a reproduction) in 9mm Parabellum, for reasonable money. Looks great on paper.

Unfortunately, it is a poorly-made unreliable hunk of junk:

Folks have even gone so far as fixing the worst flaws & changing parts, & sending Chiappa a list of all that needs to be done in order to make it safe & reliable, but apparently the current production units (at least as of about a year ago when I last gave a toss about it) are still junk.

Boo, thats a shame. Seems like a great idea if done correctly.

Yup, I’ve been pulling my hair over this as well. I really want a 9mm carbine that has a classic stock, and basically looks like Ruger PC9 or Marlin Camp 9. This was supposed to be just that, but… :/

Few hundred dollar optic, on a few hundred dollar stock.. On a hundred dollar firearm.. Yyyyeep.. This is what firearms innovation has come to..

Look what folks do with Mosins now.

You mean like this.

Edit: NO, it’s not mine..

Just because you can do a thing, doesn’t mean you should.

to think someone actually paid a tax stamp on that hideous disaster.

Or not. Bubba ain’t got time fo dat.

Looking at the wonderful quality engineering.. It’s probably a backyard contraption, and they probably didn’t..

Expensive optic on cheap gun is much better than the opposite.

Listen to the man!

No, they’re a company that targets the market that wants high-price looks at low-price costs. They’re a company that shows the world that you can, in fact, have nice things.

I’m sure some movie armorer will make great props for extras in a sci-fi movie out of these.

This is the gun equivalent of putting a Ferrari body kit on a Pontiac Fiero.

That being said, if I have a few hundred dollarydoos burning a hole in my pocket I might get one.

… I’d say Lotus Seven body filled with Ford Pinto guts, since it may handle better and since maligned tho they be, the donor machine ain’t that bad.

Say what you want about Hi-Point carbines being cheap or ugly (they are) but I’ve never met somebody who didn’t like actually shooting them. If this chassis is worth a damn and has any decent mags, I’d get one just to make the bullpup and cure my Pistol Caliber Carbine itch.

Agreed, unlike the pistols the rifles have always been highly rated, just uglier than a 10 cent hooker. This bullpup conversion will make them great, especially in a .45. I hope they make a glock or grease gun mag conversion for .45 and Uzi mags for 9mm.

Well, I always wanted a bullpup. I signed up for the newsletter to reserve my place on the waiting list & set aside some of my tax return for it!

This looks better than the original.

The way the front tapers looks a little like the ST Kinetics BMCR.

What is the hottest round the .45 caliber Hi-Point carbine can handle? +P? .45 Super? That might make for an interesting combo with this bullpup stock.

If I already owned a Hi-Point carbine, I certainly would give this bullpup kit a chance. Reducing the overall length, and the change of center of gravity seems very useful to me.

They (Iraqveteran8888) also converted the .40 to 10mm auto.

No kidding? Post link please!

Awesome! I can’t wait to shoot 8 9mms and then shove another single stack into my armpit.

…shove single stacks into your armpit-

Maaan, that’s one kinky fetish you got there!

How about the housing covering more of the barrel since the long thin barrel kind of diminishes the look. I do believe the demand for double stack is out their so hopefully they make them available.

Those Polish RAK kits have a double stack that tapers to a single feed, but they are 9mm MAK and straight. I think getting the Korean Glock mags to fit is going to be way to go.

Almost all handguns that use double stack mags taper into a single column.

Is there any chance to make this thing work with 1911 single stack mags since double stack isn’t in the foreseeable future. You have a lot more mag coices than what we get from Highpoint right now.

Recently quit my job and have a 995 with original and ATI stock, four mags, and less than 100 rounds through it.

Tempted to list on ARMSLIST or something. Never sold a gun online, but hey, I rarely shoot it and my 5″ Charter Arms 9mm 6rd Pitbull. (They’re impossible to find now!)

I got great slogan for Highpoint.

Highpoint – Too American.

Curious thought: which is worse, a f*ck-you tax or the NFA tax?

A Hot New Pistol-Caliber Bullpup Kit for Hi-Point Carbines.

A design rendering of the bullpup conversion kit. (Photo: JTT/HTA)

Correction: High Tower Armory informed us that the projected price for the bullpup kit will only be $199. The kit and a carbine combined are expected to run buyers around $500 in total.

High Tower Armory is working on a bullpup conversion kit for the unlikeliest of pistol-caliber carbines, Hi-Point rifles. The kit shortens the overall length of the gun while giving it a welcome makeover.

Hi-Point carbines are uncomplicated, easy to find and generally inexpensive. They’re popular for shooting at the range and for anyone looking for an affordable carbine for protection. Hi-Point carbines are chambered for 9mm Luger, .40 S&W and .380 and .45 ACP.

These carbines are simple and have a good reputation for reliability and durability. But you don’t have to try hard to find someone to bash them based on looks alone. Not only will this kit add functionality to the base rifle, it gives it a much more sleek and modern appearance.

According to Matt over at Jerking the Trigger, the kit is projected to run around $199.

“It may not be your cup of tea but there is likely a market for this conversion,” said Matt. It could be a solid improvement to a carbine that performs beyond its price point.”

A pistol-caliber bullpup makes a lot of sense for home protection, in addition to being a fun plinker or brush rifle. The shortened length makes it easier to use in tight spaces, which is one of the main reasons to get a bullpup in the first place. But being chambered for pistol cartridges is another advantage as they make much less noise, indoors especially, compared to more powerful rifle cartridges.

Carbines also give shooters the option of using much hotter ammo than they would normally use in a handgun. This bullpup kit bridges the gap between pistol and intermediate-caliber rifle.

With their longer barrels carbines also offer superior ballistics compared to the same rounds fired out of handguns. And with the High Tower Armory kit’s rail for red dot sights and other optics users should expect to see improved accuracy on their part as well.

See Also: Cheap Guns: Hi-Point 45ACP Tactical Carbine–4595TS Review.

In addition to adding a flat-top rail for optics, the conversion kit has a 6-o’clock rail for foregrips and weapon lights.

From these design renderings, it looks like the High Tower Armory kit uses Hi-Point magazines, which isn’t bad. Hi-Point now manufactures magazines with up to 20-round capacities. That’s a little shy compared to other rifles and carbines but it’s great by pistol standards.

High Tower Armory might even feel the urge to get into making their own improved Hi-Point magazines. The company has a good rep for their line of Ruger 10/22 FN-style bullpup conversion kits and extended magazines.

If this kit works well and has even a half-decent trigger it’s likely to make a lot of Hi-Point shooters very happy. And if it looks as good in real life as it does in these drawings then it will probably make brand new Hi-Point owners wig out of even more.

Whoooooo. Good lord. The whole thing ready to shoot (go bang! bang!) is in the $500 buck range.

Bull Pup Conversion $199 or so.

Hi-Point carbine $249.00 to $300.00 depending on where ya find one.

Time for a bit of math $448.00 to $500.00 which is a damn good price for anything that’s reliable and accurate on a man size target (in the boiler room) now it wood be VERY COOL if it wood accept Glock mags but oh well it is what it is.

Now as far as the price of the rifle where im from in N. C i have seen em for as low as $229.98 to as high as $319.99 so thats where my ciphering is coming from.

Hello:) will the bull pup conversion kit fit my hi point m995ts? Thank you.

This kit is a great idea, also like the thought about adapted extended mags. I have a redball 20rd and it appears that in the design photo HTA would shorten the mag well and make it less functional with my after market mags because the redball mags have a plastic molding in the middle that inserts up to the bottom of the pistol grip making them more stable. I have been considering installing an uzi style buttstock/plate but I think I’ll wait to see this kit when it comes out.

I think $199 is a good price, $300 is more than i paid for the rifle, you’ll sell a ton of these at $199. i’ll buy one immediately and i know a guy who sells Hi Points he will surely recommend these to his customers.

Great idea, with some concerns.. I own the 4595 carbine, and knowing how it functions inside, I am concerned about all the long rods for the trigger, safery and mag release. All that linkage, making it more complicated may as well affect its reliability. And as a “kit”, not too many have the talent or expertise to make the conversion themselves.

What about a large capacity mag for the 995 carbine are their any out there?

Red Ball makes a 20 round clip for the 995ts and it works great. Bought mine months ago and have fired over 200 rounds with no FTFs. It’s also endorsed by Hi Point since it won’t damage the gun the way the Pro Mags do and won’t void Hi Point’s lifetime warranty either.

It really take American ingenuity to make the original monkey gun uglier, but it\’s been done.

God bless America.

I don’t get it either. It looks like they shaved maybe 3 or 4 inches off the stock, but moved the trigger 10 or so inches forward. All bullpups I’ve seen before remove nearly all of the shoulder stock length to make the rifle significantly shorter, but this clearly did not.

If they make them to take glock mags.

They’ll be making a fortune selling all they can make. I’d buy one in 45acp for my wife.

Hey guys great article! Just for everyone’s info - the price on this stock will be $200-300 (hopefully less). The ENTIRE package, rifle and stock will end up costing the shooter about $500. That’s where that price came from. Hope that helps!

Andy and the team at High Tower Armory, LLC.

Now that seems a whole lot more reasonalble now itd just take glock mags ud sell 1000s of em.

Any idea on release date?

Does anybody have the answer to win the stock may be available? I just got a high point carbine and a longer top rail. But if I’m going to put it in a stock like this there’s no need for me to install the real now.

Any update on availability??

how soon B/4 this hi point stock hits the market? I already need 3.

April or May of this year.

Can i get on a waiting list for purchase . I would love to get one early and test it out . also are the stocks going to fit the .380 , 45 carbines for sure . If so i will definitely buy one . i own all three calibers. Please respond soon . imndrooling over it already .

Think about the money: Kel-Tec sub2000 (9mm, 40); Beretta Storm carbine (9mm, 40); CZ scorpion evo 9mm, Thureon 9mm;

Judge tactical (410, 45). All under the price of this kit plus the gun. On their website they sell the 22 ROGER kit for 300 plus whatever that rifle runs? Just Sayin.

I think you’re missing the whole point here. It’s like people are discussing a VW GTI and your comparing Ford f-150’s. This is a bullpup, not even comparable to any rifle you listed besides that they’re rifles that shoot handgun calibers.

Why not go with the modern replicas of the WW2 era .30 cal M1 Carbine instead? Available with the paratrooper style folding wire / pistol grip stock if you really want a compact intermediate power rifle that is good to 200 yards. With the far improved Hornady expanding FTX ammo it is far better than with FMJ ammo. It has twice the muzzle energy of the pistol caliber carbines, and fires fairly cheap FMJ ammo for target practice. Mine has a combo weapon light / bright green laser mounted under the barrel for quick / poor light condition shooting, and a 4X Mildot scope sight on top for accurate shooting. With proper magazines a very deadly lightweight rifle that is a joy to shoot.

The .30 carbine is great, had a few love them. However, a carbine in the same round as your carry pistol is a fantastic combo. Not many people carry a hand gun in .30 carbine.

Ruger did.. Had one, reloaded myself and used it for deerhunting. Great combo!

Don’t know if Ruger still makes the 30 carbine model.

today. Now I have the 995ts.

Because the Chiappa M1 Carbine replicas that shoot 9mm are complete crap every review I have read….bummer actually as I wanted one…oh well my 4095 is great.

The “Jerking the Trigger” article says “High Tower Armory hasn’t released pricing yet but they have stated that this conversion and the carbine itself could be put together for around $500.”

Now, this article says “According to Matt over at Jerking the Trigger, the kit is projected to run around $500”. Two different things, and I don’t blame people for being confused. To me, a “kit” is something you add TO a firearm, not the assembled firearm and the add-on.

Ok so apparently some can’t read as it states the cost is INCLUDING the Hi-Point rifle itself. I will buy two, one in 9mm one if .45 especially if it comes with the ability to add any AR trigger we want. I’d love to drop in my FOSTECH Echo Trigger and make this a cheap range / home defense gun that my wife and daughters can handle accurately with automatic firing power. AR’s, +P .45acp pistol and shotguns are simply too much for them to handle (small women).

If they ever get around to accepting high cap mags I’m in. If they would accept Glock mags I’m in. Make a 10mm I’m in.

Me too glock or colt mags and a 10mm option this thing would be sick.

Can’t you people do simple math! Total price is $500 minus $300 carbine = $200! And that’s a good price for a bull pup conversion stock anytime!

wait, the gun (meaning action, barrel, etc.) come with this “conversion kit”? where did you hear that? why would they call it a conversion kit if it comes with the gun itself?

conversion kite are for people who already have the gun, and want to change the appearance/function of the gun (like ruger 10/22 kits, Remington 700 kits/chassis, etc.) where you just take the internals from your own gun and put them in the new receiver.

and if this price was for a full gun, why wouldn’t they include the price of the conversion kits only for people who already own a hi-point carbine? why would they be marketing this towards people who already own hi-point carbines?

No if you already own any of the high point call. 380,9mm,40,or 45 4095 models you already have. Then you can purchase the bull pup stock conversion for around $199. The cost of carbine you’ve already bought is around $300. 300+200=($500)

,a href=”jerkingthetrigger/2016/10/18/high-tower-armory-bullpup-conversion-for-the/”> The “Jerking the Trigger” article says “High Tower Armory hasn’t released pricing yet but they have stated that this conversion and the carbine itself could be put together for around $500.”

This is just the price for the conversion kit…then add the price of the carbine and you’re well over $800-900. You have to buy both..it doesn’t come ready to shoot!

No the people that make the kit posted in here and say total gun and kit 500 so 300 gun 200 kit and maybe less.

“Tacti-.cool” will sell. I could sell these in my shop.

To spend $500.00 more on a conversion kit for a high point, I would rather invest that money on a GLOCK, S&W, CANICK-TP9, SIG, CZ-75 or any other good quality gun on the market, if you check the amount that you will pay for buy a new carbine between $300 to $400 new on any web side and used on any pawn shop is going to be minimum $280 and you add $500 more for a conversion kit you already turn it into a $700 dollars gun.

I have never considered a Hi-Point anything before I read this article. For $500 ☆☆☆CARBINE INCLUDED (re-read the article)☆☆☆ I would consider it in .45ACP, threaded barrel, naturally. I think that it could be a good deal of fun!

The only reason I don’t have one is the fact they only take 10 round mags. I’ll second the glock magazine suggestion. They would sell off the chart if they made that happen.

If it’s priced at 500 they won’t sell very many. If prices at 300 they will sell some, tons of the trigger is good. 200 and they will sell a lot (even if the trigger is iffy).

The article actually states that the cost of the conversion would be about $500 – INCLUDING the cost of the Hi-Point carbine (around $300).

What a great idea. A $500 stock for a $300 rifle. And now the trigger is even worse than before. Im sure they will sell like hotcakes.

Yes it does seem like a good idea, but as usual the execution is flawed. $500? Come on, few are going to cough up the cash. Hi points sell because they are cheap, with this stock, your in the same price range as a Beretta Storm. A weapon that takes a double stack mag.

No. You didn’t follow the “Jerking the Trigger” link which states:

“High Tower Armory hasn’t released pricing yet but they have stated that this conversion and the carbine itself could be put together for around $500. ”

So that would put the price of the kit right around the same price as their current 10/22 conversion kits; $270/

So, take a $300 gun and turn it into a $800 gun. Somewhere there is a purpose being defeated here. I think I would rather buy an $800 gun with some off the shelf accessory options. They may be too proud of this stock kit by far. Why buy a Ford Focus and put a Lincoln body on it.

“On some glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their harts desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.” - H. L. Mencken Journalist.

Good idea, crazy price. CRAZY price. Sell it for $150 MAX and you would likely have a winner, assuming it works ok.

I have had a Hi-Point 9mm carbine wrapped in the ATI stock (very similar to the Beretta Storm in appearance) for about 7 years now. I have shot everything from 115gn+P to sub-sonic 147gn and 165gn, both open and suppressed. I have only had a handful of stove pipes (likely my fault, as some days it will get 500+ rounds suppressed without cleaning) and have put thousands of rounds through it. I am in no way a Hi-point fan, but I have been impressed with the simplicity of this little carbine. You knock off the goofy looking stock and set it up right, and it really will preform. If these kits come out as rendered, ill probably end up with a second one…

If they make it to take Glock mags, it will be a WINNER!

A beautiful piece. What is the cost and where to buy.?

Firstly, a 9mm carbine is quieter than a 223 or 12 gauge, but with your face that close to the muzzle I don’t think it matters. And secondly, I’m concerned about the trigger. It’s already crap and bullpups have notoriously garbage triggers.

What Is The Best 9mm Carbine? We Have a Look At 5 Great Options.

What is the best 9mm carbine out here? Let’s just first see why someone would want a 9mm carbine in the first place.

The main advantages of a carbine in a pistol caliber over a handgun include the increased sight radius which aids with accurate shooting; the long barrel more efficiently captures burning powder which increases projectile velocity; and more points of contact between the shooter and weapon which increases stability.

So what is the best 9mm carbine? Let us look at 5 options below.

Kel-Tec SUB-2000.

With an MSRP of $500, the Kel-Tec Sub 2000 is an inexpensive alternative to AR-15s and pricier “tactical” rifles for someone on a budget. The SUB-2000 is brought to us by the folks over at Kel-Tec (who are based in Florida, USA). It was designed by George Kellgren, a Swedish-American designer who also designed many earlier Husqvarna (in Sweden), Intratec, and Grendel brand firearms.

The rifle is a blowback operated, semi-automatic firearm with its operating spring located in the tubular stock. It feeds from a grip-located magazine well using magazines designed for various pistols, and is an inexpensive carbine. It comes in at a very light 4 lbs, which helps with easy handling.

Something we like about the Sub-2000 is that it folds in half for easy storage and transportation, and is very slim. So overall it takes up little space (the gun cannot be fired when folded).

You can get the Sub-2000 in both 9mm or .40 S&W calibers, however if you decide to get a Sub-2000 you will probably struggle to find one. That is simply because there is such a demand for this weapon, while Kel-Tec is not producing enough of the guns to satisfy the demand.

The Gen 2 version of the Sub-2000 has some improvements that include:

Adjustable stock New sling attachment points Improved pistol grips for better ergonomics.

What others have to say: “ The polymer-framed SUB 2000 is fun, functional and available at a very reasonable price. What more do you want from a folding pistol-caliber carbine? ” – B. Gil Horman on AmericanRifleMan. org.

CMMG Mk9 T.

If you love the look and feel of an AR but don’t want to buy a 5.56 rifle and ammo for target practice and defensive shooting, then the Mk9-T is an excellent option to consider. The flattop design is ready-made for mounting optics, and this rifle is virtually begging to be paired with a high-quality red dot sight. At 6.3 lbs, it’s easy to transport, and recoil is nil. The MK-9 T wears a sixteen inch M-4 profile barrel, made of 4140 steel. The handguard is their RKM11 KeyMod free-float aluminum unit (KeyMod was designed to replace the traditional Picatinny rail system. KeyMod employs a keyhole-type system on the mounting surface (such as a rail) whereby accessories such as lights and lasers can be mounted without the use of tools if they have a KeyMod nut designed to fit in these “keyholes” – the benefit is reduced weight and better ergonomics). Being of blowback operation, there is no gas system, but the MK-9 T uses the spring in the stock tube to return the bolt into battery, just as does a direct-impingement or gas-piston AR.

With an MSRP of over a $1000, this is an expensive weapon though. And different to the Sub-2000, this rifle does not accept a varied number of magazines and also does not fold in half. Overall it is also slightly heavier and bigger than the Sub-2000.

If you are looking for reliability, accuracy and a weapon that is made in the USA, the MK-9 T is an excellent option as the the best 9mm carbine for your needs.

What others have to say: “ The evaluation of the Mk9 showed that it was accurate, reliable, and well-made. ” – James Reeves on TheFireArmBlog.

Rock River Arms LAR-9 CAR A4.

Rock River Arms are generally known for making custom 1911 pistols, but they are now also in the rifle market with their LAR-9 offering. The A4 model has a 16-inch barrel, M4-style fore-end and collapsible stock, fixed front sight, A2 flash hider and rubber pistol grip.

With an MSRP of over a $1000, it is also pricier than the Sub-2000. With a weight of 7.1 lbs and a length of 36 inches, it is once of the larger rifles on our list.

If you want a rifle for tactical training purposes, this is possibly the best 9mm carbine for your needs.

What others have to say: “ it is a quality weapon system capable of delivering fight-stopping, accurate fire in a chambering that is more economical. ” Kevin Davis on Tactical-life.

Hi-Point 995 Carbine.

If you are not an experienced shooter and want something for home defence purposes or just plinking, then the 995 is possibly the best 9mm carbine for you.

The Hi-Point carbine is a series of carbines chambered for 9×19mm Parabellum, .40 S&W, and .45 ACP. A .380 ACP variant has also been introduced. They are very inexpensive, constructed using polymers and alloyed metals as much as possible, resulting in a reduction of production costs and sale price.

With a weight of 5.75 lbs and a length of 32.5 inches it is not the smallest rifle on our list, but it is by no means the largest rifle either.

The main selling point for this weapon is its price point, with an MSRP starting at below $300, this is a very affordable weapon. We also really like the fact that Hi-Point offers a lifetime warranty on their guns – whether you are the first or even third owner of the gun, they offer free repairs for the gun.

It is not the best looking carbine ever and has no fancy features like some of the other rifles, but for new and casual shooters who just want something for home defence or plinking, you do not really much more anyway.

Beretta Cx4 Storm.

This carbine is aimed at the sporting, personal defense and law enforcement markets. The Cx4 Storm was developed to be used in conjunction with Beretta semi-automatic pistols. For example, the magazines for the Beretta 92FS chambered in 9mm can be used in the Cx4.

The CX4 Storm includes a Picatinny rail that can be extended under the barrel by pushing in the sling button and pulling the rail out by a thumb tab. Each Storm also includes a side rail with two mounting screws, a second can be purchased along with a bottom rail from the manufacturer. The contoured bottom rail is designed to attach under the two side rails. The Cx4 comes from the factory with adjustable iron sights. The stock on the Cx4 has an adjustable length of pull. Adjustment is made by the use of stock spacers. In addition to being able to customize the Cx4 with accessories, it is also able to switch the safety, cocking handle, ejection port, and magazine release to the left side of the weapon to accommodate left-handed shooters.

It is of a similar size to the Hi-Point, but with an MSRP of just under $1000 it is much more expensive. However for the extra money you get a much more advanced weapon with modern technologies and features (and of course it looks very cool!).

What others have to say: “ I think the Beretta offers a professional, bet-your-life-on-it patrol carbine for a very competitive price. ” – Joe Grine on TheTruthAboutGuns.

What Do You Think – What Is The Best 9mm Carbine?

To make a list of the best 9mm carbine options out there is almost impossible as there are different rifles for different purposes. Not to mention everyone has their own preferences when it comes to rifles of this nature. But if you think there is a specific 9mm carbine that stands head and shoulders above the options we noted above, please tell us by sharing your comments in the comments section below.